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Who kidnapped Hoffman and put him in the electrical chair?

Postby truebutsad » June 10th, 2013, 5:50 pm

I was watching Saw 4 again and I was wondering who kidnapped Hoffman and put him in the electrical chair?
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Re: Who kidnapped Hoffman and put him in the electrical chai

Postby Mrs.Kramer » June 14th, 2013, 4:18 pm

he put himself in the chair, because it had to look like he was also one of jigsaws victims :)
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Re: Who kidnapped Hoffman and put him in the electrical chai

Postby Kitty » July 23rd, 2013, 6:29 pm

Good question, but if he put himself in the chair, who strapped him up?
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Re: Who kidnapped Hoffman and put him in the electrical chai

Postby Valkarius » August 8th, 2013, 10:43 pm

I think Art strapped him in. As he was in the same room if I am correct. Not to mention, he did watch the clock. And tell Rigg "You weren't supposed to come till timer ran out".

Btw, I was curious about something. We all know Art bled from the mouth after cutting the stitches. So was there a time lapse as he wasn't bleeding when Rigg came through the door.
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Re: Who kidnapped Hoffman and put him in the electrical chai

Postby Kitty » August 9th, 2013, 9:51 pm

Zen Master V wrote:I think Art strapped him in. As he was in the same room if I am correct. Not to mention, he did watch the clock. And tell Rigg "You weren't supposed to come till timer ran out".

Btw, I was curious about something. We all know Art bled from the mouth after cutting the stitches. So was there a time lapse as he wasn't bleeding when Rigg came through the door.


Point taken about Art. Had to be him.
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Re: Who kidnapped Hoffman and put him in the electrical chai

Postby Horacio » November 24th, 2013, 5:35 pm

In the theatrical version, the extended bit about Hoffman unstrapping himself clearly points out that he has strapped himself in. You could see that only one of his arms was actually tied to the chair, and he only needs one arm to buckle himself in.
Art was kidnapped 2 weeks prior to the movie, as the flat in which the death trap for Ivan was placed was rented on his name for that period of time. He didn't strap Hoffman in, because then he would know Hoffman was only loosely strapped in, and would expose him as the apprentice. He walked in that final room after both Hoffman and Eric were placed in their traps, and set up the last piece. At the end, when he was faced with Rigg, he did tell him - JIGSAW IS TESTING YOU! I DIDN'T DO THIS! which means he doesn't know who is involved, he was just strapped with a trap on his neck and got the instructions what to do.
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Re: Who kidnapped Hoffman and put him in the electrical chai

Postby Kitty » November 25th, 2013, 12:31 am

Horacio wrote:In the theatrical version, the extended bit about Hoffman unstrapping himself clearly points out that he has strapped himself in. You could see that only one of his arms was actually tied to the chair, and he only needs one arm to buckle himself in.
Art was kidnapped 2 weeks prior to the movie, as the flat in which the death trap for Ivan was placed was rented on his name for that period of time. He didn't strap Hoffman in, because then he would know Hoffman was only loosely strapped in, and would expose him as the apprentice. He walked in that final room after both Hoffman and Eric were placed in their traps, and set up the last piece. At the end, when he was faced with Rigg, he did tell him - JIGSAW IS TESTING YOU! I DIDN'T DO THIS! which means he doesn't know who is involved, he was just strapped with a trap on his neck and got the instructions what to do.


Good point there too.
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Re: Who kidnapped Hoffman and put him in the electrical chai

Postby Faerie Tanith » June 10th, 2017, 2:33 am

Hoffman roughed himself up because he's a big bad.
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